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Transcript from DEV Q&A on Discord (7/29/2021)


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THIS IS A TRANSCRIPT ONLY!!  It's already long since done and over.

I cut out a lot of the fluff and banter, tried slimming it down to just the questions that actually got answers.

In cases where a question was asked, a dev replied, then someone replied directly to that reply with a followup question and a dev replied, I tried to group them together, so they're not all in "chronological order".  They're marked with --[[ and --]] around them.  Anything in there surrounded by ((( and ))) is a comment I threw in (there's only 2... you'll see em).

I did very little editing to spelling, grammar, etc of questions and answers.

(Oh, and for some reason I had a heck of a time getting most of the emojis through, so many are missing.  Sorry.)

 

Anyway... here it is.

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how are you?

koonschi: Great! A little stressed, a little worried about how it's all unfolding 😄

 

how many bug reports have it been until now 😄

koonschi: @leti said something of 120 this morning, so 5h ago

 

Considering the feedback regarding the ship rotation that I could notice here in the Discord channels, are you planning to take another look at this issue?

schiebi: We will do a config option for this, so you can opt for whatever you like more

 

How big is the build limit

koonschi: Pre-2.0 ship of 15.999999999999 slots

koonschi: Or infinite, if you're in free play or creative

koonschi: or classic

 

Has the secret boss battle been found yet

schiebi: Not yet as far as we know

 

is 2.0 likely to be the last major update? are there any plans for the future or another game

koonschi: There are plans for the future! No spoilers though

 

Which new feature is the one that you two and the rest of the DEV team where most on the fence about (as in, you had to implement it but you're not sure yet if you actually like it yourselves or not)?

koonschi: Ship controls 😄

 

Can we have stations in transport mode be able to use engines and thrusters like normal ships?

schiebi: No stations are stations and are not supposed to move on their own

 

Is there a possibility of allowing more bevelled polygons and curved polygons in build mode?

koonschi: no plans, due to technical limitation

 

why do shuttles go to a jumpgate? to simulate them going to another system for stuff?

koonschi: they like them and its the easiest way to travel for them

 

Will you include formations as a feature, so that ships can fly in specified positions alongside the fleet leader? One thing I would love to see is the ability for dreadnoughts to form the Wall of Battle.

koonschi: same here, but that would add tons and tons of complexity and the dev time invested wouldnt be worth the value that would come out of it

 

duno if it's already part of the beta, but is it possible now to form fleets, so you can send fleets around instead of always having to pick all the ships you wanna move one by one?

schiebi: We introduced a new move command, where you can use escorts to move whole fleets

 

Do you like cats?

schiebi: As long as they don't want to sleep on my face, yes

 

Any plans for armor and hull texture options?

koonschi: yes no spoilers though!

 

where can travel hubs be found?

schiebi: Everywhere in green blips

 

Has the "added imbalance to test bug reports" been reported yet? ^^

koonschi: nope!

 

Can a Finance screen or Books of Accounts screen be provided in-game, so that we can get a clear picture of profits, losses, incomes, and expenses? Also, can a sector tax system be implemented, so that our stations in faction space will have to pay some kind of property tax?

koonschi: that is a really really great idea for a mod

 

What is one of your favorite changes in this update? I noticed the zoom-in feature, and I like it!

koonschi: Ambient shuttles, by far!

 

When establishing a central production hub it can get messy trying to ship material around. Has the idea of a central storage been given any thought? Essentially allowing all production to deliver to and take from this 1 structure? Would simplify so much production infrastructure.

koonschi: central storage won't be necessary with the 2.0 factory configuration model

 

How exactly do we get building knowledge? I've heard that on higher difficulties you have to fight Swoks with only iron to get titanium

schiebi: Just try to fight of pirates in yellow blip sectors or get good enough relations to a faction and buy it from them

 

Would it be possible to allow blocks for the modding community? Or is that too big an ask

koonschi: We wanted that for years but it'd require a complete overhaul of the block system, which would lead to major performance issues. I didn't add it from the beginning and now it's too late without a month's worth of work

 

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Why hasn't auto fire been implemented yet? Like when mining a large asteroid. Key bind for laser always on type of deal instead of holding the clicker

koonschi: Autopilot is the answer

schiebi: You can use your autopilot for this. If you have a captain you can even mine the whole sector while just sitting there and watching your ship

 

But only with a Captain

koonschi: Have you tried the strategy mode?

 

Do the commands differ from strategy mode in comparison to "normal" mode? If yes, why would there be different commands usable?

koonschi: some are more complex and longer, and the autopilot is too dumb for them. that's when a captain comes into play

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Is it by design that without a Captain, only the "Refine Ores" command is usable for your own vessel for the Autopilot?

koonschi: yes

 

Why dont Scavenger Captains benefit from Scrapyards while on duty

schiebi: Because they don't have a license to do this

 

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I'm curious about why the change to ship rotation was implemented. What problem was it trying to solve?

koonschi: people smashing into stations after docking

 

((( I think the below comment was related to the above question, but I’m not 100% sure!! )))

koonschi: to think we almost threw that control mode out

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How's the mood at the dev team now that this major update is close to being pushed out.

koonschi: I can only speak for myself but I'm pretty relieved

schiebi: Same here. It feels good to finally present you what we have done the last months

 

question will captains be moddible?

koonschi: they already are

 

Any plans to change the load screen between sectors to a dope animated warp screen?

koonschi: I WOULD LOVE THAT

 

will planetary gameplay possibly a thing eventually? maybe as a DLC? or is it completely ruled out?

schiebi: No

koonschi: Give me a decade

 

Are there any plans to eventually make hacking moddable?

koonschi: nope!

 

Why aren't autopilot and strategy mode equal in terms of functionality? You can kind of get the greyed out autopilot orders without a captain via strategy mode, but it is a hassle.

koonschi: they're not the same

 

Do we have any idea on an automated economy? Like a fetch order where merchants retrieve things for a premium? So long as we have stations mapped with the resources?

schiebi: they already can. And you can make supply routes for your stations

 

Would it be possible to make it so you can send multiple Miners/Traders/Etc in the same mission (like how escort selection currently functions) and having that also increasing payout a fair bit, but also lowering efficiency? That way, you could do things like a 5 miner / 2 escort single mining mission?

koonschi: We're thinking about this

 

Can other players encounter your captains that have been sent out on orders in multiplayer? IE can you still pirate from an R-mining vessel?

koonschi: no, they're safe

 

will the hyperspace jumping animation and SFX get some love at some point now that we'll be spending more time jumping and watching/listening to it? I love the charging up sound!

schiebi: They already have our love

koonschi: WHY U HATE OUR JUMP ANIMATION

koonschi: (°□° ┻━┻

 

Which Dev has the cutest dog, Also provide proof

schiebi: Should be @Sue as she is the only one with a dog

Sue: Me

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How much does the ship design influence the operation results? From my limited understanding of lua only turrets/fighters and freights space are taken into account

koonschi: it's mostly influenced by cargo bay, equipment and captain. we thought about making it influenced more by design, but that lead to much confusion during internal testing

 

when you plan particle emitting blocks? Seen that in the roadmap and I still want to build refinery ships around that

koonschi: Engines, Thrusters

 

Will there be a simple “follow” command? For weaker/non combat ships that otherwise suicide into enemies if set to escort

schiebi: Use escort. If your fleet is strong enough, everything will be alright

 

are the ship size limits so that people don’t build capital ships in the outer rim that could take on the WHG already?

koonschi: The game is quickly trivialized by grinding and building a moloch, and I don't like that. I know other people do or arent bothered by that, which is why Classic mode is still there

 

You both having fun answering our billions of question? Or is it stressful and hard? I'd imagine a bit of both

schiebi: It's a bit of both, yes

 

I feel obligated to ask.... STEALTH is coming when?

koonschi: when it's done 😛 (this is not a confirmation)

schiebi: Maybe there are already stealth ships, and just no one is able to see or detect them, so the technology stays covered too?

 

MOAR ambient shuttles

koonschi: YESH

 

when doing mining missions can your ship die on them?

koonschi: only if you keep ignoring its calls for help

 

Are the bugs related to alliance vessels not being able to do quests being addressed?

koonschi: we're constantly working on that

 

Are there any plans to add new basic weapon types? I saw that you guys added a few more special types.

koonschi: we have a few ideas, but they'd have to have a good purpose and place among the rest of the weapons (nobody wants OP or useless weapons)

 

How do you help the mining ship if it doesn't exist in a sector? If its attacked does it render in?

koonschi: Try it out

 

Do rifts shift? If not, is that something you've looked at?

koonschi: Rifts shift it you mess with the .ini file

 

Will we be able to customize fighter shot and trail color at some point?

koonschi: So much work for so little customization. Probably won't come unless it's for free with another feature we're adding

 

how rare are actually claimable wreckages?

koonschi: very

koonschi: in all seriousness though i can't tell you off the top of my head. they exist, but they're rare

 

How about making Safe Removal of Upgrades a Mobile capability, ie, for a small nimble service boat ?

koonschi: you should try removing them from a station in 2.0 and see what happens

 

Are there any plans for 1st person view? For example, a cockpit block that would determine where it would be situated on the ship

koonschi: no because controls are weird and wonky

 

Does the DEV team know that the pirate raid mission is bugged and people aren't getting their rewards?

koonschi: yes. believe me. we know. you all made sure we do 😄

 

Oh, one thing I'd love to see. mining torpedoes Would mega asteroids that you'd have to specially crack be a thing you'd consider?

koonschi: i thought about those as a joke and then remembered that many people would take them too seriously and then dropped them

 

Can we get a Reward/achievement for Saving the Pirate traitor in hidden sectors?

schiebi: We'll see. Maybe if there's enough people whishing for it

 

Are there any plans to make factions more intractable between each other? Like sectors switching control or expanding

koonschi: we thought about this for a long time and it's such a complex feature that it would basically be a second game if we wanted to do it right (which we do)

 

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Would aiming reticles be a thing on targets? say most of your weapons have the same speed, so a little + sign would appear on your target where you would have to aim

schiebi: Very difficult, as weapons have very different projectile speeds

 

then aiming reticle averages your weapon speeds to provide a middle ground? or, a computer system that would introduce this as a feature, that would encourage players to get same/similar weapons (shouldn't be a problem with turret factories)

schiebi: Middleground means that every weapon won't hit with this reticle

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the super weapon power fantasy, is this somewhere on the board? Think eve online super weapon giant laser beam etc etc

koonschi: not planned, those would be fun for 15 minutes and then the game's over

 

Is this just an ilusion or are there more faction battles now?

koonschi: there never were any faction battles to begin with, unless @schiebi sneaked them in some years ago

koonschi: to be more serious though, it's random and not linked to the update

 

Shoot through invisible blocks when???

koonschi: already!?

 

WHO made the travel hub Ring, there is no way its generated? massive props to him/her i love it

schiebi: I forwarded this

 

Will tutorials get updated in the future (or will we get new ones for advanced concepts involving automation, running your own faction, etc) or is that currently not worth the effort?

koonschi: we updated them with 2.0

 

Any plans to add something like an energy ram that scales the damage by your speed?

koonschi: i remember when our physics was still even more wonky and you could just boost towards the WHG and then pause -> transform ship into a large asteroid -> BAM

 

Can we build our own travel hub stations that work like NPC ones?

schiebi: No

 

What happened to the "old" avorion ost, and why it can't be played?

koonschi: you're talking about the combat tracks from back then. Youtube strikes that we couldn't get rid of, also it was just temp music. you can just copy the old music into your folder and rename it, should work fine

 

Has anyone reported that autopiloted ships don't seem to be traveling through gates? My friend on my server seems to be having his autopiloted ships waiting infront of gates indefinitely. Seemingly fixes itself if he re-plots the route

koonschi: report it!

 

Is the no boost in autopilot a bug or a feature?

koonschi: yes

 

what was the weirdest bug you encountered when working on 2.0 that got fixed before it was released to the wild?

schiebi: For me it was a bug while working on some pirates. I made a little mistake and the pirates didn't stop spawning. When I had about 1000 pirates and 380 torpedoes on their way, I decided to back off with my 0.1 FPS

koonschi: i've never produced any bugs in my entire life

schiebi: Doubt......

koonschi: shut up

schiebi: Ok boss

 

What exactly is the difference between Classic and Normal scenario? The only thing I know is that classic doesn't have the new progression

koonschi: it says it right there in the tooltip

 

anything that will make it more useful to use non histscan weapons or change them in some way? friendly fire can be a real problem with them

koonschi: projectile speed of all weapons was buffed, you could have seen this if you had tried to start avorion 2x on 2 different steam accounts next to each other after buying it twice

 

whats the case when captain have conflicting traits like commoner and careful having conflicting chances of being ambushed? does it cancel eachother out?

schiebi: Both get applied. Check the command for further information about how the traits affect them

 

are there plans to release avorion on other platforms now as well?

schiebi: No. Controls are just to much to map them on a controller.

koonschi: we spent 5 months ( no joke) trying to map the controls to a gamepad in a way that we were satisfied. didn't work. also, technical limitations in the engine. short answer: no 😕

 

Just killed Swoks and it dropped no Titanium knowledge. Is this intended?

koonschi: then you're in classic or had it already

koonschi: Titanium knowledge not being handed out by ABCDEF the adventurer on Hardcore+ was a design mistake and will be fixed

 

Any plans for sub object blocks where the block can be built on and rotated under circumstances set by the player? For example if [vehicle speed is (>) than (6969m/s)], then [rotate (60) degrees]

koonschi: would make the game unplayable performance wise

 

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Hello devs! Will there be an option to change the fleet orders for mining back to the old version?

schiebi: No

 

And why is that if I may ask? I know a lot of us enjoyed the old version as it added a sense of awe as we see and manage our fleet on the map. Is it difficult to re-add as a toggle-able option?

koonschi: see my twitter

 

((( Following is from koonschi‘s twitter )))

 

Since it's been coming up a lot: The old mine-refine-loop was a shitty, garbled mess of code that was an unreliable performance hog. The new mining operations are meant to replace that. Infinite income from mining vessels w/o interaction is not how we imagine the game.

 

Please keep in mind that we're not replacing the mine-refine-loop to annoy anyone but because we think that the new system is better. If it turns out that it isn't, we'll improve it. For now, I'd like you to try it out and report back what's not working properly.

 

((( End twitter )))

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i didnt think that captains would survive the destruction of a ship honestly, is it difficulty dependent wether or not they get killed ?

koonschi: sometimes we have to make choice between realism and/or being a dick to players, or being nice to players and less work for us. we opted for the latter here

 

Are there plans for more exotic weaponry. niche role stuff like mines or weapons that interact apply debuffs etc

koonschi: no concrete plans but making weapons is fun, so who knows

 

Is there an option to increase the size of the thickness off the leyters/numbers? Since the update I have problems to read them

koonschi: fonts are moddable and interchangeable

 

What do you devs think of the Discord community?

koonschi: You know we love you!

schiebi: I think we can be proud to have such a nice community

 

I recall there being a plan to make galaxy size moddable at some point. Was I mistaken? Is that still in the works?

koonschi: scrapped because awful lot of things depend on the size. you can add artificial rifts to limit it though!

 

Are there commands to change settings (like the ones in free play menu) after already making a galaxy?

koonschi: you can edit the .ini file if you're brave enough

 

And Are we getting a colour wheel in a future update

schiebi: I feel as I read this question already......

schiebi: Colour wheel is somewhere in our minds, but we have other things that are more important

 

One thing I would love to have is somehow seeing the ships I designed and made on the map, would that be possible in future updates?

koonschi: you can! there's a checkbox that enables them being listed on the right!

 

i would love if the indicator for valueable loot was in a diferent color then white, its very confusing with all the titanium for example. i dont mean the symbol up top but the actual indicator..

koonschi: If it's white then that's because you've got loot of all the colors of the rainbow

 

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Building mode surface snapping, so no more square hit boxes for slopes and triangles, possible? (In building mode)

koonschi: i don't get it

 

Blocks would be oriented to the surface of the other block, so if you want to place a block on a slope that’s 45 degrees the block would also be placed at 45 degrees

koonschi: won't be in this Avorion

koonschi: they would completely wreck performance

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The only thing that doesnt work for me is that my server doesnt show up in server list (yes i allowed server list)

schiebi: Check if you opened the needed ports

 

What are some inhouse jokes about the game that yall can share with us?

koonschi: Swork and Xsoltan

schiebi: We used to joke a lot about stickships once....

koonschi: but then we encountered them ourselves

schiebi: but then we fixed them. If you encounter a generated stick ship in the future, please share it

 

what prompted you guys to rename the client function HyperspaceAnimation to HyperspaceJumpAnimation?

koonschi: because there's a different one for charging now

 

You guys ever heard of the game “From the depths”?

koonschi: yup, had quite a few nice talks with the dev

 

How many alpacas were added in 2.0?

schiebi: A lot. Look around if you find all of them

koonschi: all of them

 

oh I may have missed the answer for this, but will the old movement controls be re-added in some way? I can adapt to the new ones but would greatly appreciate if we could have the old one too

schiebi: Nope Oooops, didn't read good enough

koonschi: yes, just answer "Nope" randomly to create confusion

koonschi: we'll add the option

koonschi: it was on the fence here as well

 

will ambient shuttles be customizable?

koonschi: not planned as of now, performance reasons here as well

 

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will there be a more automated way for fighters to be set to for instance, mining? lets say im just cruising around, i could press a button and they would automatically switch from asteroid to asteroid

koonschi: they already do that

 

you.. what? mine arent automatic, is it an option somewhere?

koonschi: there's a harvest command

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is the HUD moddable ?

koonschi: sadly, no! it's too old

 

When will 2.0 come to the stable branch?

schiebi: When it's ready.

 

Are more sector types a possibility in future updates?

koonschi: yes

 

Are radiated sectors gonna be a thing ?

koonschi: if they're fun or a challenge, then yes

 

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More dynamic backgrounds like supernovas, asteroids colliding and etc? Also maybe a smooth transition for jumps like No mans sky?

koonschi: id love a smooth transition but the engine is too old

 

hey but it's your engine afaik? 😄 so.. maybe it can be updated to not be old? 😄

koonschi: in theory yes, in practice: time and money are finite

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Would it be a possibility that more backgrounds get added?

koonschi: could be but if I say "yes" it'll be as if I confirmed it

 

Will there be higher yields when ordering mining ships to go mine, or will we have to find/develop good captains?

schiebi: The better your captain, the better your yield

koonschi: I'll put it like this: We maxed it out and were like "uh, isn't this a little much?" but then we thought, "eh, with such a ship, it should be possible"

 

why dont we have more than just the 1 black hole in the center, have some smaller ones not in the center of the map ?

koonschi: we wanted the one in the center to be special (no joke)

 

More stuff to do with the drones like maybe swap the default drone for like a custom build? Maybe like a salvage mission where you have to use the drone to explore the interior of a ship to get a valuable and delicate module?

schiebi: Sounds interesting. I will keep this in mind for the future.

 

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What do you think about the steam deck? I'm already excited to try playing Avorion on it

koonschi: What's the Steam Deck

koonschi: I'll check it out after the AMA

 

TLDR its a PC that looks like a switch -Steam forcing yall to finally figure out Gamepad controls lmao

koonschi: a crap

koonschi: i knew they'd get me

koonschi: darned Valvers

schiebi: GabeN cheated us

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will there be a way to cheat-in good captains on say creative mode?

koonschi: Captains are ~95% lua, ie. moddable

 

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oh... so the new mining doesnt work when you log out on servers ?

schiebi: Yes.

 

sooooo it doesnt sim offline and it only can be set for max two hours ?

koonschi: six hours

 

How do you set mining for 6 hours? I can only do 3 at max?

schiebi: There a specialists for every job.

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can ships not be seen in-world/attacked/etc while sent on a mission?

koonschi: they have a chance of being attacked, or at least your captain will tell you when they worry about an operation

 

Odd question, how do you fit so much content on only 700-something to 800-something megabytes? Like, I know COD does much of it on purpose but they dont achieve as much content on hundreds of gigabytes. Is it really JUST graphical fidelity or is there more to it?

schiebi: We are good in our job

schiebi: But seriously most of it is not having the graphics and sounds of CoD

koonschi: fun fact: most of that is actually the OST

 

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More propulsion systems like rocket booster blocks, solar sails and tactical warps where it warps you by a few KM instead of to another sector?

koonschi: what would that actually achieve?

 

(Current thruster) ion drive: bad acceleration, insane efficiency because it uses generated power. Rocket engine: requires fuel but has the fastest acceleration and highest top speed but requires you to buy fuel. Solar sail: requires no power and actually generates power but multiples from surface area

koonschi: how do you think this community would react if we added fuel that has to be regularly refueled?

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What is the reason that some blocks like hull/armor have shape options and others do not?

schiebi: Arbitrariness

 

Is it possible that we’ll see all shapes on all blocks in the future?

schiebi: Possible: yes, probable: no

 

Whats the story beyond your discord tags?

schiebi: It was my nickname in RL for most of my childhood

koonschi: used to be a nickname from my childhood

 

Will there be a way for us to order our ships to move our ships without safety in mind (i.e. being invisible)? It's a bit odd seeing a battle fleet I designed specifically to combat anything and everything that gets in its way, destroying entire governments and pirate havens, just to see that they want to move in secrecy. In fact, I kinda want a function where we actively announce that we are moving through an area to have more pirate attacks on our battle fleet convoy.

koonschi: I think you should be able to send them along somewhere without them being attacked, or are you in really, really, really, really dangerous territory?

 

Has anyone in the Dev team gotten all achievements ?

schiebi: Multiple times. We also have to delete them from time to time to test them

 

have you guys tried any mods from the workshop?

koonschi: no time 😢

 

so for mining ships controlled by AI, does the addition of the mission system make finding systems rich in asteroids less relevant as the amount of minerals seems to be more or less determined across the entire region selected? i'd also wonder how this would effect pvp as it looks like ships sent on missions are pretty much invulnerable to other players? or no

koonschi: region is more important

 

how did the devs find out about 0m blocks? Do you lurk here in discord?

schiebi: We have our eyes and ears everywhere

 

Why does insane have no titanium knowledge ? its actually extremely crushing trying to do that difficulty now and is now just rng with starting factions but was that the Idea to make it just well, depressing lol. I love insane due to endgame normally

koonschi: I've answered this already, in short: design mistake, will be changed

koonschi: i thought it was good idea, but it wasn't

 

Do you prefer tacos burritos or chimichangas?

koonschi: Tacos

koonschi: But there isn't much Mexican Food in Germany

schiebi: Of these things, I only ate Tacos

 

What's you favourite type of cake?

koonschi: Schwarzwälder Kirsch

 

Will modders be able to add the old mining orders back in?

koonschi: I don't know, you should ask them

 

I really hope this posts....

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And apparently trying to edit the post screws up the formatting of the quote, so any further "edits" I need to make will be in this post.

 

Unless it's stuff within the quote that I need to edit.  *sigh*  Good thing I kept the original document I typed it all up in originally....

 

Ok, should probably also note that the whole thing kicked off at (relative to my time) 9 AM EST and lasted to a little over 10:30 AM (they originally said 45 minutes, but obviously went over!).  Sorry, RL and difficulty trying to export it all into a format I could edit kept me from posting this up until about 4:30 PM. 😛

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